Sunday, May 20, 2007

Vostok Komandirskie 3AKA3 Review

On a Nilsen bund strap

This review is, in many respects, similar to the Vostok Komandirskie review that I did a few years back. However, there have been so many new old stock (NOS) examples of this model turning up on the global tag sale that I thought it would be a good idea to not only acquire an example but to see just what you get with one of these older models.


The main feature about this particular Vostok that interested me is the lettering on the dial to the left of the 6 o'clock position. There the notation 3AKA3 appears. What this means is that this example was specifically ordered by the Soviet ministry of defense to be issued to a soldier. (It never was issued, however, and I acquired it new in the box with the tag still on and the paperwork included.) Models with the 3AKA3 designation are rarer than ordinary Vostoks which are simply labeled as being made in CCCP or, these days, Russia.


This example's case measures 40mm in width (43 mm with the crown), 45 mm lug to lug, 11 mm in thickness and has an 18 mm band lug width. Unlike the previously reviewed model, this one has a gold-tone case (actually plated with titanium nitride). The movement is a Vostok workhorse, the 17 jewel 2414A that has a reputation for being very rugged. The watch uses a typical thick Vostok acrylic crystal and has the company's signature two-piece back. So far, it has been running quite well, gaining about 20 seconds a day. (That could probably be improved on with regulation, to say nothing about a cleaning and oiling given this model's age, but I can live with it.)


In comparison to the newer Komandirskie I reviewed earlier, this older model is very similar. They both use the same movement and share the same overall design. The only significant differences are that the older Vostok has a larger crown (that resembles the crown used by the Amphibia series of Vostoks), and the shape of the bezel is somewhat different. The lume on the 3AKA3 seems pretty much inactive, glowing for only a few minutes after exposure to light, but even new Vostoks have lousy lume too. One detail about the old Vostok does merit mention though. The overall quality of the watchcase and it’s plating in particular, seems superior to that of the newer models. It just looks better finished to my eye. Other than that though, these watches clearly emerged from the same factory.


In summary, I'm glad I finally got my hands on one of these. It is both a nice field watch and a historically interesting piece. If you are thinking about picking up one, and you have dabbled in Russian watches before, be forewarned-the time when these 3AKA3s could be had for $20 is over. Expect to see nice examples in the $60-$120 range these days, possibly even more. The market is finally catching up to even Russian watches I'm afraid, although there are still buys to be had.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

hi, share your love of these watches...however, my understanding is that on the old soviet vostoks (boctoks, etc) the gold coloured military models were not 'titanium nitride', which is not only expensive but, supposedly, newer technology vs. plating...i have one of these and i must say i believe it is just a brass case without any plating whatsoever, something i've seen done in other soviet watches of the era...the downside in not plating being that brass is not as hard as chrome, upside being is that it doesn't scratch or ding through, and scratches polish out without having to strip plating, polish, and replate...
i'm not certain about these being brass with no plating, but in refinishing cases of german ww2 DH watches, i found some where the cases were of some type of unplated nickel alloy...polishing them you could see they were a touch softer than steel or what would have been new chrome plating at the time, but then they didn't look godawful ugly from chrome wearing the precedent for softer alloys goes back at least to some of the DH watches (though brass is technically not an alloy, just a softer metal)...

anyway, kudos on your choice of watches to love...i adore the military vostoks

11:03 PM  
Blogger Ed said...

Interesting. They don't seem to tarnish which I always found odd. I'll look into it further if I can.

8:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hi Ed nice blog you have, i have the same model of komandirskie with the same case, but its crome-plated and diferend dial (kubinka). it has the same 2414a movement and i want to ask if it have some kind of quick date set. i have seen some newer vostok with 2416b movement have some kind of set by goind back and forth between 22.00 and 24.00 but this movement its older then them, and not sure its good for the watch to go back the hands in case i brake the movement. thanks for eny help.
Petros Karampatakis

1:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"ЗАКАЗ МО СССР," means "By Order of the Ministry of Defense of the USSR." These models were subject to rigorous quality control and sold exclusively through Voentorg stores, which catered to military personnel with identification only.

7:06 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

I found one this morning on a fleamarket for 5 euro and i decided it's a keeper this one came without strap in a small box even containing the original manual/waranty not sure what i can't read russian. mine looks like it is never worn, maybe they came without a strap?

9:44 AM  

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